We here at The Z Review generally refrain from playing in the comments section. It’s our belief that it should be an area dedicated to our readers, a place where they can rant unfettered and free. Still, after reading a particularly delusional – and lengthy – response to my article ‘Bernie Sanders Gave Us Trump – And I’m Still Pissed!’ by a lovely Z Fan named ‘Choam Nomsky,’ I felt compelled to add my two cents.

I was also in desperate need of something to write about today, so thank you Choam!

Ultimately, our aim with The Z Review is to promote — and engage in — an ongoing conversation with our readers. We don’t care about journalistic convention…we’re far more interested in getting at the truth. So, dear Z people, enjoy the following exchange – and again…thank you Choam!

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Sure are a good deal of creative insults and condescending generalizations in this article; it’s just a shame that there wasn’t a single shred of statistical data or academic analysis cited to back any of them.

Hmmm… I really thought putting ‘And I’m still pissed’ in the title would be a clear indication of the tone and type of article it would be. So, you were looking for a deep academic analysis of why I loathe Bernie and his busters, huh?

Personally, my peers and I, while proud supporters of Bernie Sanders in the primaries as well as donors to the Democratic Party, would never have voted for Hillary Clinton because we fundamentally disagree with her policies on matters such as the Israel-Palestine conflict, campaign finance reform, and NAFTA. Her record on gay rights and association with scandals such as the Clinton Foundation’s warrant a pause for discussion, at the least.

Ok…so you prefer Trump’s thoughtful policies and well considered strategies on all these matters. Nice. I especially loved when he decreed a military ban for all trans people via Twitter. I seriously wonder a) if you actually know anything about any of these issues and b) how they impact your life. Nothing would give me more pleasure than to hear your academic analysis on NAFTA and TPP and how we’re better off on trade without it. I’m sure it would be as scintillating as receiving a colonoscopy from an irate 500 pound gorilla.

God forbid we have our own opinions and debate them in the open forum of democracy, right?
Unfortunately for your article, we were not the typical democratic primary participants.

Yes…I think I well described what you are – something about the loathsome contingent of humanity that suffers from the delusion that they’re more intellectually inclined than they really are. There was also that stuff about parrot brained sheep fuckfaces…I particularly enjoyed writing that!

It may be conveniently easy to blame Bernie and his supporters for the lost election, however this is distinctly separate from the political reality, first and foremost as illustrated by the polls which pitted Trump against prospective opponents throughout the primary process. Bernie repeatedly performed better against Trump than any other candidate.

Bernie did not win the primary so this point is moot. But I also know Trump and the Republicans would have made mincemeat of him. The socialist that spent his honeymoon in Russia would have gone over big with Americans in the flyover states…oh the tragic irony of it all.

Bernie Sanders himself forsook his rhetoric and wholeheartedly backed Clinton at the DNC in an attempt to prevent the election of Trump. I challenge you to find a single instance between that time and election night where he did anything but actively and publicly support Clinton in her bid.

If by active and public you mean pathetically tepid and begrudging…then you’re absolutely right! Now for your homework…show me one instance where he actually gave a full throated endorsement of Clinton and her abilities and I’ll buy you a candy bar.

If that’s not enough, I ask that you please look at the statistics regarding the exit polls. The majority of former Bernie supporters voted for Clinton, and next to none supported Trump. To assume that without Bernie more people would have voted, or that those who voted 3rd party would have supported Clinton is not only a (pointlessly) absurd notion, but a downright demeaning insinuation that your fellow Americans are unable to make decisions for themselves, let alone stand by their morals.

I don’t need to ‘assume’ that without Bernie more people would have voted – it’s a statistical fact. Oh… there’s some of that statistical data you were talking about! Sweet!

We, however, refuse to mitigate our voices or consent to policies we fundamentally disagree with simply because they represent the lesser of two evils. Especially if they appear incapable of directly addressing difficult questions. Differing ethical/political standards do not make us misogynistic.

Yes…believe me I understand. The abjectly mediocre have historically always had the loudest and least mitigated voice in society. I would add that anyone who wouldn’t pick the ‘lesser of two evils’ has the cognitive function of a brussel sprout. Not that I thought she was in any way ‘evil’…but even still — the choice couldn’t have been clearer. And yes, the fact that the loudest and ‘least mitigated’ Bernie or busters tend to be white males is a red flag on the misogyny!

What’s more, regardless of your perceived (and very palpable) outrage or intentions, I think it’s important to point out that this piece of yours contributes absolutely nothing to meaningful political discourse.

It wasn’t meant to add anything to anything – merely to vent and possibly give others an opportunity to do so as well. Including you…in your very unmitigated way – seriously, I think your comment was longer than my piece! We’re not paying you by the way!

Those who agree with you will share your anger, possibly alienating Bernie supporters from their lives, and those who do not will feel attacked and belittled due to the (quite explicit) elitist, insulting overtones of the article.

From your mouth to god’s ear, baby!

Even as somebody who disagrees with what you’ve said, I read through the entire piece, desperately hoping that there would be some theory of substance, some suggestion or significant argument, or perhaps a proposed solution. Instead, I found nothing but hatred as blind as that you attribute to your supposed political adversaries.

Jeebus mamaloocha, you are a precious little snowflake, aren’t you? Again, the title of the piece ended with, ‘I’m still pissed!’…this was not the Lincoln/Douglas debates part deux!

Needless to say, any Bernie supporter who reads this, myself included, will if anything be far less likely to cooperate with Hillary or any other establishment democrat in the future if this is the sort of response we can expect for trying to start a dialogue or raise issues which would otherwise go unaddressed.
Finger-pointing after the fact achieves nothing.

Hmmm…see, I disagree with you there – this piece has, in fact, started a dialogue! See all the comments in the little boxes below? I’m not ‘mitigating’ anyone’s voice – least of all yours!

Maybe it’s satisfying to spout your hateful stereotypes so as to make yourself feel superior to those around you. Maybe it’s easier to just spew angry profanities than attempt to express your opinions in any sort of actual theoretical analysis or dialogue.

Yes…I’ve always found it easy to spew angry profanities – it’s a lot of fun too!

Maybe it’s energizing to evoke raw hatred devoid of meaning outside of controversy as a means of getting attention.

Way more energizing that a 5-hour energy drink – and no calories! A moment on the lips is a lifetime on the hips!

Yet in spite of your reasons or how you may believe this article appears, anybody who examines it for substance would be left with the impression that it was written by a petulant child, as opposed to an adult with considered, educated, multi-dimensional opinions. It is my (minuscule) hope that you read this, take this as a suggestion, and edit it into something resembling a respectable journalistic piece.

Respectable journalism will not stand here at the Z Review! We prefer honesty, emotion and flair here at the Z. Lots of flair!

So please, if it is impossible to remember that we are thinking, caring human beings, capable and desiring of the best for our country, then remember that tearing us down with juvenile slander is at best useless, and at worst an endeavor destructive to everything you wish to achieve.

Yes…you wanted the best for this country – that’s why you helped to get Trump elected. Thank you for that…it’s much appreciated. But please do keep reading and commenting…it’s all about provoking a dialogue, after all!

Oh… and by the way ‘Choam Nomsky,’ Noam Chomsky thinks you’re an idiot too…

*boom*

UPDATE: Choam provided a lengthy response to this post…so in the spirit of fairness and equal time — and appreciation for him being such a good sport, despite our obvious political differences — I am posting his thoughts below without any further comment. Again, thanks Choam — and like it or not…this is dialogue.

First of all, I’d like to thank you for taking the time to respond to my first comment at such length- I don’t think it needs to be said that entertaining the opinions of others is perhaps the most essential part of any functioning democracy.

Secondly, I think it’s evident I won’t be changing your mind here, but you brought up several points I think are worthy of addressing, if for no other reason than the entertainment of your readers.
Bear with me, I promise the cited sources at the bottom are relevant and of import.

This post is a little long, but if you’d like a succinct explanation of why measures such as NAFTA are harmful for the average person in this country (as well as in Mexico) I suggest you look to sites like Jacobin, academic economic summaries(1), or such books as Thomas Frank’s books Listen Liberal, and to a lesser extent What’s the Matter with Kansas?
It isn’t difficult to find considered analysis (or statistics) condemning these decidedly corporate free trade measures.

(As long as we’re talking about Noam Chomsky, he has written/spoken very well to the matter of the Israeli Palestinian conflict several times- it won’t take more than a few minutes on google or youtube to see the difference between Clinton’s treatment of the issue and ethical reality)

Next, allow me to bring your attention to the fact that you have no cause to believe that republicans would “have made mincemeat” of Bernie- Donald Trump actively shied away from debating him, and the polls don’t lie(2).

Speaking of polls, that source you cited mentions that more young people supported 3rd party candidates and abstained from voting, in the context of the Clinton campaign’s failure- there’s no claim or inference that this was BECAUSE Bernie ran, it’s simply a shift in demographics from Obama voters. To claim otherwise is baseless and ignorant of the fact that the majority(3) of Bernie supporters did vote Clinton (particularly in the swing states where it mattered)(4), and (as stated in my previous response) these people are frustrated and would not necessarily have voted for her in the absence of outsider options.

The establishment Democrats have even admitted Clinton was a weak candidate(5,6,7). No amount of name-calling will change that.

You appear to enjoy being angry, and you’re probably going to believe whatever you desire at the end of the day, but Sanders unequivocally contributed substantial time and money to Clinton’s campaign(8,9,10).

You may not hold yourself to high journalistic standards (this is labeled as news, after all), but that doesn’t mean that people won’t or shouldn’t treat what either of us have to say seriously, and as such excusing your work on such a basis makes my critiques no less valid. You did post it above a comment section, after all.

You seem to be labouring under the impression that this is an effective dialogue, as opposed to the non-serious addressing of opposing viewpoints (mainly through profanity) that it is. To most people, your piece (as well as the above response) understandably would serve to do nothing more than entrench them in their current beliefs. I replied because I was actively seeking out opposing viewpoints to gain and promote understanding.
Obscenity is not an argument, and it doesn’t make you any more correct (or credible) in your assertions.

Furthermore, you repeated the statement that Bernie supporters are somehow intrinsically moronic, yet view themselves as superior to others around them. In light of this I feel it prudent to highlight the fact that out of all the words in these articles, yours have been, by far, the most condescending, dehumanizing and snobbish.

This may well just be garden-variety ideological bigotry, however I think it is indicative of a larger issue.
Contrary to what you may wish to believe, the majority of American voters, Sanders, Trump or otherwise, are not completely blind- they pay attention to what is said about them, the relevant issues, and their elected officials. Articles like this are what make it so easy for them to dismiss serious discussion, as well as the concerns of their opposition, and ultimately the candidates who are associated with such perceived opponents. Just hop on 4chan, youtube or reddit’s politically-serious conservative corners and I promise you’ll find endless gripes about how irrational, pompous and unreasonably detrimental to discourse ‘the left’ seems to them based on examples like this. If we truly share political goals of similarity great enough to warrant cooperation, this is not the way to encourage Bernie supporters to aid you- it’s as much potential to divide us and aid Trump as Bernie ever had.

(As an aside, it’s worthy of comment that much of what you have said here bears a striking resemblance to the most ardent of Mr. Trump’s supporters I have spoken with, whom you appear to substantially loathe- not least of all because you seem to prefer smarmy, dismissive responses to meaningful dialectical ones)

For whatever reason you seem to conflate opposition to Hillary with innate support for Trump, even though plenty of Bernie supporters (myself included) have been the first people to stand up in protest of his policies as president, either in person or through organizations such as the ACLU. The majority of us came from deep blue states which would go to the Democratic candidate regardless. The majority of us are young people struggling to eke out a living in an increasingly stratified society. If you’re so sure we’re inherently stupid for not immediately trusting a candidate whose majority of campaign funding came directly from the corporate institutions who have made a killing at the expense of middle America, whose husband is a man who unflinchingly broke the back of organized labour in this country, then I seriously suggest you reevaluate whatever perceptions of class you may hold, or at least do some research into the deplorable material conditions many of your fellow Americans are saddled with daily. They should at least cause you to hesitate if you care for your fellow man.

On a relevant side note- for all you’ve questioned my intelligence and knowledge, I can’t help but notice that you haven’t displayed an understanding of any issues relevant to the political climate beyond the fact that Clinton is opposed to Trump. Just a casual observation.

I have to seriously wonder, why is it the responsibility of Bernie supporters to carry the burden of opposition to Trump in the form of a system that doesn’t respect them? What about the undemocratic electoral college, or the sensationalist nature of the media? These institutions gave Trump a platform, wildly promoted him, and contributed far more to his election than any single voting bloc.
What about Hillary Clinton and her campaign? Doesn’t she have a responsibility to own up to her scandals, whatever your opinion on them may be, and present her political platform in a way that appeals to the majority of Americans? If she is unconvincing, in a truly democratic society, the fault of her failed campaign lies with its advocates, not the citizens who didn’t think she would represent them well.
You have every right to be mad, but there’s no tenable reason to focus that anger on your ostensible constituents.

I would also like to apologize if I was in any way unclear when talking about the mitigation of Sanders’ supporters’ voices (or rather those outside the establishment Democratic Party in general); I was in no way referring to your or any such public forum of media. When I speak of mitigation, it is concerning such matters as the indisputable conspiracy(11) on the part of the Democratic Party’s leadership to suppress opposition to Hillary Clinton, and more specifically the resulting compromise of our core values when forced to support a candidate who does not represent us. If we do nothing, we mitigate our own voices. The rejection of representatives who do not advocate for the values of their constituency is a fundamental aspect of democracy; to argue otherwise is a tantamount to consent to oligarchy.
After violence, voting against such authorities is the only way to effectively convey discontent.

I support and encourage your right to hold a differing opinion and express that as you see fit, but unlike yourself I believe that an environment permissive of such can only be maintained through civil discussion, not depersonalizing and degrading rhetoric. Expressing anger is not the same as encouraging hatred.

Since you might be wondering, the name is nothing more than a pseudonym. While I read and respect Mr. Chomsky’s work, I am not obligated to agree with him on all issues. He, like all politicians, writers, and activists, is imperfect, and I doubt somebody like himself who values a free-thinking, diverse society would want anybody to think of him otherwise.

At any rate, forgive me if I gave the impression of being angry. On the contrary, I’m happy I could give you something to write about.

All the best.

1. http://www.epi.org/blog/naftas-impact-workers/

2. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/g00/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html?i10c.referrer

3. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/the-democratic-convention-is-chaotic-the-democratic-base-isnt/?utm_term=.4b59cb8d7843

4. https://grahamkbrown.net/2016/11/14/did-the-bernie-bros-cost-clinton-the-election/

5. http://observer.com/2016/11/hillary-clinton-and-the-dnc-have-only-themselves-to-blame/

6. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/even-supporters-agree-clinton-has-weaknesses-as-a-candidate-what-can-she-do/2016/05/15/132f4d7e-1874-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html?utm_term=.60a4663ac2a4

7. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/hillary-clinton-election-president-loss

8. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/bernie-sanders-campaign-for-clinton-228701

9. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-eye-post-election-goals/story?id=43300037

10. http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-road-trip-benrie-sanders-hits-the-1472821260-htmlstory.html

11. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-and-the-dnc-favored-hillary_us_57b365a4e4b0b3bb4b0800bd

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  1. Nah, what it is is a whole lot of older and middle-aged Democrats who don’t realize that the 90’s are over, that the bloom is off the rose and that times have changed. The Democratic party has gone so far to the right, it’s hard to believe that it was once the party of FDR, Truman, Kennedy and Johnson. The corporatists have taken over and pushed the party’s platform to nothing more than defending the gains made two, three or four decades ago, rather than going forward. Progress is the name of the game here. Without progress, you’re as good as dead in the water. Nothing ever gets done, nothing ever changes. A large number of American voters have all but given up on the Democratic party because it has ceased to be a real opposition party.

    Look, I get it. The labor unions have been tremendously weakened largely through GOP policies (but also because of Democratic acquiesence to those policies), and so they have been forced to take large donations from the same corporate and banking interests as the Republican party. But times have changed. Howard Dean in 2004 and Bernie Sanders in 2016, through their grassroots campaigns, have already shown that that strategy is no longer necessary.

    • That dog won’t hunt. I’m a Democrat and was a Hillary supporter. If Bernie had won the primary, I would have voted for him and fought for him. He didn’t. His views and policies are nothing groundbreaking. Bernie or busters who say Democrats who have fought against republican ideology for years are the same as they are is infuriating. What do Berniecrats want that’s any different than what anyone who fought for hillary wants? Where’s the daylight? Single payer? Bernie didn’t come up with that… help with college tuition.. increasing minimum wage? It’s all part of the democratic platform… all what Hillary supported.

      • Let me just weigh in here. Because, as you #BernieBros love to post about everything that is wrong with the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, anyone you deem the “establishment,” etc., I find it comical that none of you have vetted Bernie’s hypocritical, opportunistic, fraudulent ass. Your ilk conveniently never has any information to provide when it comes to Sanders, only irrelevant words and opinions. I’m going to help you out with that. Because that’s just the helpful type of person I am. Besides, it seems you don’t share any information that doesn’t agree with your preconceived narrative.

        Let’s be completely honest, as all the far-left extremists claim they are the biggest advocates of human rights and equality. After they exclaimed “just let the republicans win/ Hillary is worse than Trump/ I’m not voting for the lesser of two evils” etc., and threw everyone except their white asses under rhe bus and shoved them in front of the Trump train. Anyone who did not vote for Hillary Clinton- their vote was a HATE CRIME. As Trump attacks every single minority group in this country, as lives are being torn apart, as hate crimes continue to increase, etc., Bernie’s busters didn’t give a fuck, their white privilege and/or wealth sheilds them from what everyone else is now living through. Their false “purity” and quest for perfectionism, that does not exist, was more important than peoples rights and lives.

        “Fully 12 percent of people who voted for Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., in the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries voted for President Trump in the general election.”
        http://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

        “How Gary Johnson and Jill Stein helped elect Donald Trump”
        http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/gary-johnson-jill-stein-spoiler/index.html

        “The System Isn’t ‘Rigged’ Against Sanders”
        https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-system-isnt-rigged-against-sanders/

        It’s comical the #BernieBros believe the DNC forced 4 MILLION more people to vote for Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders. 😂

        “I’m sorry that Bernie said what he said about Hillary Clinton and women. It fed into the warped frenzy of misogyny that overtook his so-called revolution. He still thinks, and his followers think, that he would have beaten Donald J. Trump. He couldn’t even win in the primary. There was no rigging, there was no collusion. She won four million more votes that he did. The people chose HER and not him.”
        https://medium.com/@sashastone/ten-reasons-bernie-sanders-would-not-and-could-not-have-beaten-trump-b596674c1c93

        “I have no problem with anyone who voted for Trump, because they wanted a Trump presidency. I have an enormous problem with anyone who voted for Trump or Stein or Johnson—or who didn’t vote at all—and who now expresses horror about the outcome of this election. If you don’t like the consequences of your own actions, shut the hell up.”
        http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/democrats-swallowed-these-two-giant-myths-and-it-cost-them-the-election/

        These individuals, videos and articles being produced by far-left extremists attacking all Democrats as, “the establishment too disconnected from the working people,” is an insult to us [the people] personally. These Democrats have done more throughout their careers, than U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders has throughout his entire 35 long years as an establishment politician. Which, none can name any mentionable “revolutionary change” implemented by Sanders, which he speaks about ad nauseam.

        If we do not stand up for our leaders who have dedicated their lives in service to us, not all, but many who are under attack by false leftist “purity;” then the far-left will continue to divide our party and the left in general. We will be worse off in 2018, 2020, and beyond, than we ever were in 2016. Republicans will only become stronger [the exact desired outcome of this assault]. These extremists are driving us into a bleak future with their irrational demands, inept logic and reasoning, and refusal to acknowledge facts, only wishing to steer by emotion. 

        I’m not saying many do not have great ideas, even Bernie. However, their bullying tactics to demand everything, and demand it “NOW,” is not how you govern 320 million individuals. All while refusing to collaborate or compromise. They have no desire to work with us, or our elected officials, they want to completely take over the Democratic Party. That cannot happen. They do not get to demand a seat at the table by forcing everyone, anyone, they wish to falsely label as “establishment” to vacate their seat. Either have a seat with us, or elsewhere.

        Hillary Clinton is not the establishment. She has dedicated her life to public service, has more accomplishments, incomparable to most, and is one of our greatest politicians of all time. She has a proven record based on fact and action, not rhetoric. She ran a 38 plus point platform that was inclusive to every single American citizen on the left, and to those on the right. Thirty-eight policy proposals spelled out in over 125,000 words, compared to Trump’s seven policies and just over 9,000 words; of which most were repetitive soundbites and catch phrases. We know them well, “build the wall” and “make America great again”. We all knew, and know where that is heading. Bernie on the other hand, not Clinton, was the flawed candidate. Opportunistic in every sense and incompetent to the point of embarrassment for someone with a career of 35 years in an elected public office. 

        For those who call themselves “progressives and liberals” that wish to work with us, instead of attacking us, we should welcome them. For those who only wish to be divisive and destructive, we cannot afford to even entertain their irrational demands. The next four years will be a dark stain on our country’s history. If we do not demand the truth, the facts, and allow ourselves to succumb to extremism breeding on the left; we will continue to fail. We will find ourselves in a nationalistic theocracy, ruled by fascism.  

        Those who refused to vote, voted third party, etc., are now watching all our progress being eroded in a single day. They are outraged over women’s rights; civil rights; LGBT rights; immigration; healthcare; responsible gun legislation; climate change; education/student debt; minimum wage; Flint, Michigan; Standing Rock; the Supreme Court; ethics; corruption; obstructionism; demagoguery; tyranny; etc. However, if they all would have meant their feel-good slogan of “#USNotMe, we would not be in this position. 

        *Make no mistake, there is and will be from here on out, right-wing propagandists, even foreign influence trying to dictate the divide in hopes of growing nationalism and fascism. By an onslaught of trolls, fake news, and every means possible. Just as Russia has done in England [Brexit], recently here in the US [our election], now Germany [with their upcoming election], and all across the globe. This is not just the work of far-left fanatics, they are also being influenced unwillingly, unknowingly, and some even refusing to admit, by outside opposition. 

        We have two years; not even. We must unite together for the greater good of our nation, and root ourselves back in reality. Not for the greater good of singular individuals, or groups, or issues. For all of us. It truly should be about “us, not me,” but we have to mean it and live by it. That will progress us towards Equality. Some will feel left out on the journey from time to time, as not everything will be resolved instantaneously. However, we will keep advocating these issues until they are resolved. Not overnight, not under one President, but together we can get there. Yes we can! Yes we will! #DemandTheTruth #FactsOnly #StrongerTogether

        Anyone wishing to “advise” or even suggest that we need to stop criticizing U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders, can save their time and energy. 

        Hillary Clinton is now a private citizen, until she decides otherwise, which is her right and only her right. Bernie is still a seated Senator. He has the ability to draft legislation to actually make a difference. (If he wasn’t so concerned with selling books. Ironically, after he attacked Hillary for making her money off books and speeches.) Bernie is a public figure, an elected representative; it is our duty to hold him every bit accountable and to the same standards as any other elected official. 

        Sanders will continue to be the topic of conversations and criticism as long as he is an elected representative. So you can save the “primaries/election is over” tripe. If Bernie is speaking, in office “representing” us, he is current and relevant

        “Those furious speeches aren’t outrage, they’re entitlement.”
        http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266985/bernie-sanders-greedy-lying-socialist-1-percenter-daniel-greenfield#.WUfaBVu5N9I.facebook

        Intellectual & Liberal Speaks Out: Bernie Sanders is a Fraud
        https://medium.com/@SNovi/intellectual-liberal-speaks-out-bernie-sanders-is-a-fraud-1486ef2743ff

        You want blunt honesty? Here it is.

        ‘Let’s get something straight: Democrats are not “divided.” We don’t have an “identity crisis.” What we have is an extremist fringe faction, just like the GOP has. Their biggest mistake was giving their lunatic fringe a seat at their table. Now they’ve taken over the asylum. At least we could pass our own health care bill. We don’t need to welcome or embrace or fellate our own version of the Freedom Caucus. We need to kick them to the fucking curb.’

        The Democratic Party needs a wake up call. Stop pandering to extremists and extremism on the left.
        https://thepolicy.us/fuck-bernie-fucking-sanders-fe49195c97cd

        BERNIE CLAIMS HE IS PURE AND CLEAN FROM THE ESTABLISHMENT, LOBBYISTS, AND ALL THE DONATIONS HE ATTACKED HILLARY FOR> #FeelTheFraud

        Bernie’s Hypocrisy on Corporate Donors, Military Complex, Dirty Coal, & Super PAC’s: YES – He’s Bought.

        The NRA
        Federal Coal Co.
        Boeing Co.
        US Navy
        Google Inc.
        Microsoft Corp.
        Apple Inc.
        Amazon. com
        Kaiser Permanente
        IBM Corp.
        Merrill Lynch
        Sugar Cane Ind.

        To name a few…

        https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=All&id=N00000528&type

        “For all his proclaimed independence, Sanders cannot stop himself from gorging on the sweet deal the sugar industry offers. In the past two election cycles, ACS donated $20,000 to his campaigns. This ranks ACS among Sanders’s top 20 donors…”

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/jaredmeyer/2015/08/25/sanders-rubio-support-costly-sugar-subsidies/

        Bernie is being funded over $570,000 to date… 11/18/2015

        http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/18/politics/bernie-sanders-super-pac-nurses-union/index.html

        Nurses Union SuperPAC Information.

        http://realtime.influenceexplorer.com/committee/2016/national-nurses-united-for-patient-protection/C00490375/

        “DES MOINES — As he swung through Iowa this week, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont rarely passed up a chance to bash the rising tide of money in politics…

        But the union is not just busing nurses into Iowa. The union’s “super PAC” has spent close to $1 million on ads and other support for Mr. Sanders, the Democratic presidential candidate who has inspired liberal voters with his calls to eradicate such outside groups. In fact, more super PAC money has been spent so far in express support of Mr. Sanders than for either of his Democratic rivals, including Hillary Clinton, according to Federal Election Commission records.”

        http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/29/us/politics/bernie-sanders-is-democrats-top-beneficiary-of-outside-spending-like-it-or-not.html?_r=0&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2F

        Sanders’ ‘No Super PAC’ Myth

        https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2016/01/17/sanders-no-super-pac-myth/

        It’s not the #fact #Bernie receives and accepts these contributions, that we can’t trust him. It’s the fact he #lies about receiving and accepting these contributions.

        BREAKING: Bernie Sanders #Received #Millions in #Defense, #Energy, #Health, #Financial, #Business Industry-Related Contributions
        http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-received-millions-from-defense-energy-health-and-financial/

        Internal link to Opensecrets.org in article, with a drop-down box for each sector.

        His contributions may be less, however, isn’t the number Bernie falsely “claims”- zero?

        History has always shown, those who point fingers and cry wolf are usually those most guilty. In this case, it is his “Integrity”. Or lack of. #FeelTheManipulation

        #FeelTheHypocrisy #FeelTheFraud

        #WhichBernie!? #WhosHonestNow!? Far from #Transparent or #Sincere. Though, what should one expect from a 35 year long #Establishment #Politician!?

        Defense Sector Totals to Candidates
        https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=D

        Health Sector Totals to Candidates
        https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=H

        Lawyers & Lobbyists Sector Totals to Candidates
        https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=K

        Finance/Insurance/Real Estate Sector Totals to Candidates
        https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=F

        Communications/Electronics Sector Totals to Candidates
        https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=B

        Misc Business Sector Totals to Candidates
        https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=N

        “Diamondback Energy, Inc. is an independent oil and natural gas company headquartered in Midland, Texas. Diamondback’s growth strategy is focused on the acquisition, development, exploration and exploitation of unconventional, long-life, onshore oil and natural gas reserves in the major oil producing Permian Basin in West Texas.”

        Diamondback Energy drills and uses hydraulic fracturing, aka fracking, in the Permian Basin. It’s one thing to receive money from those in the oil industry. After all, we previously described how it is employees of the oil industry, not corporations, that donate to candidates. In fact, Bernie Sanders received about $54,000 from those in the industry himself.”

        If Bernie Sanders Doesn’t Support Fracking, He Should Check His Investments.
        http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/3/1509959/-If-Bernie-Sanders-Doesn-t-Support-Fracking-He-Should-Check-His-Investments

        #FeelTheFraud

        “If U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders Cares About Cheaper Drugs, He Should Stop Smearing His Colleagues For Rejecting His Flawed Amendment

        Last year, during his campaign for President, Bernie Sanders received $309,575 from the pharmaceutical industry. Of the 100 members of the Senate, he ranked third in donations from the industry.”

        #FeelTheFraud
        https://cenlamar.com/2017/01/14/if-bernie-sanders-cares-about-cheaper-drugs-he-should-stop-smearing-his-colleagues-for-rejecting-his-flawed-amendment/

        #MYTHBUSTER: Former NYT Editor Says Hillary Clinton Is Fundamentally #Honest and #Trustworthy

        Hillary Clinton Is One of the #MostEthical (and #MostLiedAbout) Political Leaders in America

        FACT: By This Measure, Hillary Clinton Is the #MostTruthful Candidate in the 2016 Race

        Now here’s a #GallupPoll that will have heads spinning:

        On the Democratic side, #HillaryClinton’s #Supporters are #MoreEnthusiastic than Sen. Bernie Sanders’ supporters, 54% vs. 44%. … Contrary to what the optics of the campaign might project, it is Clinton’s supporters right now who are more enthusiastic.”

        #HillYes #GiveEmHill ✊
        http://bluenationreview.com/hillary-supporters-have-the-most-enthusiasm/

        NowThisElection shared a video of #Republicans praising #BernieSanders for his “honesty”.
        https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1135361666495322&id=908009612563863

        That’s suspicious… until you research his hypocritical and contradictory record:

        -Voting for the same crime bill he attacks Hillary on, who did not have a vote.
        -The fact he voted against immigration reform.
        -Voted against same-sex marriage equality until fully supporting in 2009. As Mayor of Burlington, he signed off on an evangelical-led ‘We Believe in Marriage Week’ in 1982 – defining marriage as between a husband and wife.
        -Voted for the Commodity Futures Modernization Act.
        -Voted against auditing the Federal Reserve Bank.
        -Voted against Amber Alerts.
        -Voted against the Brady Bill five times.
        -Voted against CDC research on gun violence.
        -Voted against background checks and mandatory waiting periods.
        -The fact that the NRA helped finance Bernie’s re-election campaign in Vermont.
        -Voted to dump nuclear waste in Sierra Blanca, Texas and Barnwell, South Carolina.
        -Jane Sanders sits on and profits from the Compact Commission that oversees the transfer of nuclear waste from Vermont to other states.
        -Voted for countless acts of war, including the bills that set up and financed the Iraq war (HR 1585) and continued financing (HR 4613, HR 563, HR 2863). Later approved increased troop deployments (HR 2647) that Hillary voted against. Approved of the summer long assault against Gaza (S 498). Voted for regime change in Libya (S Res. 85) . Bosnia troop deployment resolution (H Res 247). Voted for Iraqi Liberation Act (Saddam Hussein regime change) in 1998 (Hr 4655 and H J Res 114). Approves of air strikes against ISIS, etc. etc. etc.
        -Voted against the closure of Guantanamo Bay.
        -Voted YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight (HR 5020).
        -Has 6 SuperPACs backing his campaign (that we know of), of which 3 are GOP SuperPACs.
        -Implies Hillary has control over the SuperPACs backing her campaign, which is factually false and illegal for a campaign to coordinate with a SuperPAC. Same with those supporting Bernie’s campaign. A candidate has no control over SuperPACs, they are free to endorse and support any candidate they choose, even multiple.
        -The fact he does take corporate contributions and he has received millions from all the entities/and employees he attacks Hillary for.
        -Has been cited for campaign contribution violations three times by the FEC.
        -Claims endorsements that actually endorsed Hillary.
        -Bernie’s campaign has stolen campaign data from Hillary.
        -Filed a frivolous lawsuit against the DNC over the theft of data his campaign stole, which he admitted to and fired his campaign staffers involved; illegally broke the DNC rules and campaign laws.
        -Bernie’s campaign staff illegally posed as union workers in Nevada.
        -Inflates caucuses.
        -Wrote a rape fantasy essay.
        -Claims Donald Trump’s remarks on abortion and punishing women is a distraction from “real issues”.
        -Bernie claims to have a more progressive record advocating LGBT and Womens Rights, actual record and accomplishments prove otherwise, Hillary Clinton is more accomplished on both accounts.
        -Claims the Human Right’s Campaign and Planned Parenthood, even civil rights hero’s like Congressman John Lewis are the “establishment”.
        -Claims to poll better against GOP candidates than Hillary, Politifact.com rates claim as False.
        -Claims he is the “People’s Choice” while Hillary is ahead in the popular vote by 3 MILLION votes. [Almost 4 MILLION final.]
        -Rails against Superdelegates as “establishment corruption,” in which his top advisor Tad Devine was the architect of the very Superdelegate system in the early 1980’s, then claims he will win by “persuading”/stealing said Superdelegates from Hillary.
        -Tad Devine also represented Monsanto, Phillip Morris, Pfizer, Verizon, Microsoft, as their attorney.
        -Pays his wife Jane Sanders YUGE for her work/role in campaign, while refusing to release tax returns as everything is in Jane’s name, not his.
        -Claims Hillary is dishonest, yet cannot provide a single example; Politifact.com has rated Hillary Clinton most honest candidate among all presidential hopefuls in 2016, including Bernie Sanders.
        -Claims Hillary is an establishment politician, while he has been in elected office for a total of 35 years, Hillary only 12.
        -Claims to be a candidate running on progressive, revolutionary change, however, throughout Bernie’s 35 long years in office there is no instance of revolutionary change. (And somehow he believes 35 years was not enough time to accomplish any of his current grandiose proposals, and believes he will be able to implement all of them in a short span of 4-8 years.)
        -Continuously references Denmark as an exemplary model for his proposals, yet Danes and the Danish Prime Minister reject his comparisons.
        -Grotesquely understates the cost of his proposals, as shown by all economists not directly involved in or sought out by the Sanders campaign.
        -Claims to be running a positive campaign, though is not.
        -Has a campaign that is fueled by hypocrisy and manipulation.
        -Uses regurgitated Republican propaganda, misinformation, and blatant lies as a campaign tactic against Hillary Clinton.

        Yes, Bernie is real “honest, transparent, and sincere!”

        Not to mention, when you have a horde of dishonest Republicans endorsing you, praising your “honesty,” it seems very disingenuous. Every “liberal and progressive” commenting in the comment section of the above video, cheering their praise, has attacked each and every one of these Republicans as obstructionists, extremists, and terrorists. Though, of course, since it is praise towards Bernie Sanders they think these endorsements are “honorable.” Imagine for a moment what these same “liberals and progressives” would be saying and claiming if all these same Republicans praised- #HillaryClinton.

        Revolution? I want no part of this “revolution”.

        Not So Progressive Votes Of Sen. Bernie Sanders >

        He OPPOSED legislation that would’ve MAINTAINED OR CREATED OVER 300,000 SMALL BUSINESS JOBS through loans: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1993/roll188.xml
        OPPOSED efforts to increase funding for advanced technology projects: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll484.xml
        OPPOSED Democratic attempts to prevent GOP cuts and increase funding for benefits aimed at LEGAL immigrants, Medicaid, the disabled, and children safety nets: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll168.xml
        OPPOSED federal funding to help the homeless: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        OPPOSED increased funding for nutritional programs for women, infants, and children: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1995/roll708.xml
        OPPOSED increases funding for rural development programs: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll234.xml
        OPPOSED additional funding for rural housing and development: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        OPPOSED funding for assisting prospective homeowners with AIDS: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        OPPOSED allowing breastfeeding on federal grounds: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1999/roll426.xml
        OPPOSED legislation requiring federal agencies to create and enforce anti-sex discrimination policies: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        OPPOSED legislation banning imports from forced child labor: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1997/roll474.xml
        OPPOSED funding going towards investigations of unfair trade practices: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        OPPOSED legislation encouraging Pentagon to avoid using foreign imports over domestic ones: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll617.xml
        PROPOSED withdrawing from WTO: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll239.xml
        OPPOSED pay raises for various federal employees MULTIPLE times… http://clerk.house.gov/…/clerk…/evs/2003/roll335.xml
        … while VOTING FOR HIS OWN PAY RAISE: http://www.senate.gov/…/roll…/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm…
        OPPOSED increased education funding: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        OPPOSED increases funding for poor students: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        OPPOSED legislation increasing financial aid: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        TWICE OPPOSED increased science funding for historically black colleges: http://clerk.house.gov/…/clerk…/evs/2003/roll513.xml
        OPPOSED a bill providing massive support to the agricultural communities: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll371.xml
        SUPPORTED cutting agricultural funding by ten percent: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1992/roll248.xml
        OPPOSED increases agricultural funding: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        OPPOSED increased funding for prominent farming communities: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        OPPOSED funding for drought assistance: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        OPPOSED funding for building and repairing farms: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll358.xml
        SUPPORTED gutting oversight for agricultural marketing practices: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1995/roll550.xml
        OPPOSED legislation marketing oversea agriculture practices: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1995/roll708.xml
        OPPOSED increased food safety and inspection:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
        http://footprintsstrategies.com
        http://newsin15.blogspot.com/…/not-so-progressive-votes…

  2. First of all, I’d like to thank you for taking the time to respond to my first comment at such length- I don’t think it needs to be said that entertaining the opinions of others is perhaps the most essential part of any functioning democracy.

    Secondly, I think it’s evident I won’t be changing your mind here, but you brought up several points I think are worthy of addressing, if for no other reason than the entertainment of your readers.
    Bear with me, I promise the cited sources at the bottom are relevant and of import.

    This post is a little long, but if you’d like a succinct explanation of why measures such as NAFTA are harmful for the average person in this country (as well as in Mexico) I suggest you look to sites like Jacobin, academic economic summaries(1), or such books as Thomas Frank’s books Listen Liberal, and to a lesser extent What’s the Matter with Kansas?
    It isn’t difficult to find considered analysis (or statistics) condemning these decidedly corporate free trade measures.

    (As long as we’re talking about Noam Chomsky, he has written/spoken very well to the matter of the Israeli Palestinian conflict several times- it won’t take more than a few minutes on google or youtube to see the difference between Clinton’s treatment of the issue and ethical reality)

    Next, allow me to bring your attention to the fact that you have no cause to believe that republicans would “have made mincemeat” of Bernie- Donald Trump actively shied away from debating him, and the polls don’t lie(2).

    Speaking of polls, that source you cited mentions that more young people supported 3rd party candidates and abstained from voting, in the context of the Clinton campaign’s failure- there’s no claim or inference that this was BECAUSE Bernie ran, it’s simply a shift in demographics from Obama voters. To claim otherwise is baseless and ignorant of the fact that the majority(3) of Bernie supporters did vote Clinton (particularly in the swing states where it mattered)(4), and (as stated in my previous response) these people are frustrated and would not necessarily have voted for her in the absence of outsider options.

    The establishment Democrats have even admitted Clinton was a weak candidate(5,6,7). No amount of name-calling will change that.

    You appear to enjoy being angry, and you’re probably going to believe whatever you desire at the end of the day, but Sanders unequivocally contributed substantial time and money to Clinton’s campaign(8,9,10).

    You may not hold yourself to high journalistic standards (this is labeled as news, after all), but that doesn’t mean that people won’t or shouldn’t treat what either of us have to say seriously, and as such excusing your work on such a basis makes my critiques no less valid. You did post it above a comment section, after all.

    You seem to be labouring under the impression that this is an effective dialogue, as opposed to the non-serious addressing of opposing viewpoints (mainly through profanity) that it is. To most people, your piece (as well as the above response) understandably would serve to do nothing more than entrench them in their current beliefs. I replied because I was actively seeking out opposing viewpoints to gain and promote understanding.
    Obscenity is not an argument, and it doesn’t make you any more correct (or credible) in your assertions.

    Furthermore, you repeated the statement that Bernie supporters are somehow intrinsically moronic, yet view themselves as superior to others around them. In light of this I feel it prudent to highlight the fact that out of all the words in these articles, yours have been, by far, the most condescending, dehumanizing and snobbish.

    This may well just be garden-variety ideological bigotry, however I think it is indicative of a larger issue.
    Contrary to what you may wish to believe, the majority of American voters, Sanders, Trump or otherwise, are not completely blind- they pay attention to what is said about them, the relevant issues, and their elected officials. Articles like this are what make it so easy for them to dismiss serious discussion, as well as the concerns of their opposition, and ultimately the candidates who are associated with such perceived opponents. Just hop on 4chan, youtube or reddit’s politically-serious conservative corners and I promise you’ll find endless gripes about how irrational, pompous and unreasonably detrimental to discourse ‘the left’ seems to them based on examples like this. If we truly share political goals of similarity great enough to warrant cooperation, this is not the way to encourage Bernie supporters to aid you- it’s as much potential to divide us and aid Trump as Bernie ever had.

    (As an aside, it’s worthy of comment that much of what you have said here bears a striking resemblance to the most ardent of Mr. Trump’s supporters I have spoken with, whom you appear to substantially loathe- not least of all because you seem to prefer smarmy, dismissive responses to meaningful dialectical ones)

    For whatever reason you seem to conflate opposition to Hillary with innate support for Trump, even though plenty of Bernie supporters (myself included) have been the first people to stand up in protest of his policies as president, either in person or through organizations such as the ACLU. The majority of us came from deep blue states which would go to the Democratic candidate regardless. The majority of us are young people struggling to eke out a living in an increasingly stratified society. If you’re so sure we’re inherently stupid for not immediately trusting a candidate whose majority of campaign funding came directly from the corporate institutions who have made a killing at the expense of middle America, whose husband is a man who unflinchingly broke the back of organized labour in this country, then I seriously suggest you reevaluate whatever perceptions of class you may hold, or at least do some research into the deplorable material conditions many of your fellow Americans are saddled with daily. They should at least cause you to hesitate if you care for your fellow man.

    On a relevant side note- for all you’ve questioned my intelligence and knowledge, I can’t help but notice that you haven’t displayed an understanding of any issues relevant to the political climate beyond the fact that Clinton is opposed to Trump. Just a casual observation.

    I have to seriously wonder, why is it the responsibility of Bernie supporters to carry the burden of opposition to Trump in the form of a system that doesn’t respect them? What about the undemocratic electoral college, or the sensationalist nature of the media? These institutions gave Trump a platform, wildly promoted him, and contributed far more to his election than any single voting bloc.
    What about Hillary Clinton and her campaign? Doesn’t she have a responsibility to own up to her scandals, whatever your opinion on them may be, and present her political platform in a way that appeals to the majority of Americans? If she is unconvincing, in a truly democratic society, the fault of her failed campaign lies with its advocates, not the citizens who didn’t think she would represent them well.
    You have every right to be mad, but there’s no tenable reason to focus that anger on your ostensible constituents.

    I would also like to apologize if I was in any way unclear when talking about the mitigation of Sanders’ supporters’ voices (or rather those outside the establishment Democratic Party in general); I was in no way referring to your or any such public forum of media. When I speak of mitigation, it is concerning such matters as the indisputable conspiracy(11) on the part of the Democratic Party’s leadership to suppress opposition to Hillary Clinton, and more specifically the resulting compromise of our core values when forced to support a candidate who does not represent us. If we do nothing, we mitigate our own voices. The rejection of representatives who do not advocate for the values of their constituency is a fundamental aspect of democracy; to argue otherwise is a tantamount to consent to oligarchy.
    After violence, voting against such authorities is the only way to effectively convey discontent.

    I support and encourage your right to hold a differing opinion and express that as you see fit, but unlike yourself I believe that an environment permissive of such can only be maintained through civil discussion, not depersonalizing and degrading rhetoric. Expressing anger is not the same as encouraging hatred.

    Since you might be wondering, the name is nothing more than a pseudonym. While I read and respect Mr. Chomsky’s work, I am not obligated to agree with him on all issues. He, like all politicians, writers, and activists, is imperfect, and I doubt somebody like himself who values a free-thinking, diverse society would want anybody to think of him otherwise.

    At any rate, forgive me if I gave the impression of being angry. On the contrary, I’m happy I could give you something to write about.

    All the best.

    1. http://www.epi.org/blog/naftas-impact-workers/

    2. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/g00/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html?i10c.referrer

    3. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/the-democratic-convention-is-chaotic-the-democratic-base-isnt/?utm_term=.4b59cb8d7843

    4. https://grahamkbrown.net/2016/11/14/did-the-bernie-bros-cost-clinton-the-election/

    5. http://observer.com/2016/11/hillary-clinton-and-the-dnc-have-only-themselves-to-blame/

    6. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/even-supporters-agree-clinton-has-weaknesses-as-a-candidate-what-can-she-do/2016/05/15/132f4d7e-1874-11e6-924d-838753295f9a_story.html?utm_term=.60a4663ac2a4

    7. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/09/hillary-clinton-election-president-loss

    8. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/bernie-sanders-campaign-for-clinton-228701

    9. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-eye-post-election-goals/story?id=43300037

    10. http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-road-trip-benrie-sanders-hits-the-1472821260-htmlstory.html

    11. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-and-the-dnc-favored-hillary_us_57b365a4e4b0b3bb4b0800bd

    • Let me just weigh in here. Because, as you #BernieBros love to post about everything that is wrong with the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, anyone you deem the “establishment,” etc., I find it comical that none of you have vetted Bernie’s hypocritical, opportunistic, fraudulent ass. Your ilk conveniently never has any information to provide when it comes to Sanders, only irrelevant words and opinions. I’m going to help you out with that. Because that’s just the helpful type of person I am. Besides, it seems you don’t share any information that doesn’t agree with your preconceived narrative.

      Let’s be completely honest, as all the far-left extremists claim they are the biggest advocates of human rights and equality. After they exclaimed “just let the republicans win/ Hillary is worse than Trump/ I’m not voting for the lesser of two evils” etc., and threw everyone except their white asses under rhe bus and shoved them in front of the Trump train. Anyone who did not vote for Hillary Clinton- their vote was a HATE CRIME. As Trump attacks every single minority group in this country, as lives are being torn apart, as hate crimes continue to increase, etc., Bernie’s busters didn’t give a fuck, their white privilege and/or wealth sheilds them from what everyone else is now living through. Their false “purity” and quest for perfectionism, that does not exist, was more important than peoples rights and lives.

      “Fully 12 percent of people who voted for Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., in the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries voted for President Trump in the general election.”
      http://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

      “How Gary Johnson and Jill Stein helped elect Donald Trump”
      http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/gary-johnson-jill-stein-spoiler/index.html

      “The System Isn’t ‘Rigged’ Against Sanders”
      https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-system-isnt-rigged-against-sanders/

      It’s comical the #BernieBros believe the DNC forced 4 MILLION more people to vote for Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders. 

      “I’m sorry that Bernie said what he said about Hillary Clinton and women. It fed into the warped frenzy of misogyny that overtook his so-called revolution. He still thinks, and his followers think, that he would have beaten Donald J. Trump. He couldn’t even win in the primary. There was no rigging, there was no collusion. She won four million more votes that he did. The people chose HER and not him.”
      https://medium.com/@sashastone/ten-reasons-bernie-sanders-would-not-and-could-not-have-beaten-trump-b596674c1c93

      “I have no problem with anyone who voted for Trump, because they wanted a Trump presidency. I have an enormous problem with anyone who voted for Trump or Stein or Johnson—or who didn’t vote at all—and who now expresses horror about the outcome of this election. If you don’t like the consequences of your own actions, shut the hell up.”
      http://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/democrats-swallowed-these-two-giant-myths-and-it-cost-them-the-election/

      These individuals, videos and articles being produced by far-left extremists attacking all Democrats as, “the establishment too disconnected from the working people,” is an insult to us [the people] personally. These Democrats have done more throughout their careers, than U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders has throughout his entire 35 long years as an establishment politician. Which, none can name any mentionable “revolutionary change” implemented by Sanders, which he speaks about ad nauseam.

      If we do not stand up for our leaders who have dedicated their lives in service to us, not all, but many who are under attack by false leftist “purity;” then the far-left will continue to divide our party and the left in general. We will be worse off in 2018, 2020, and beyond, than we ever were in 2016. Republicans will only become stronger [the exact desired outcome of this assault]. These extremists are driving us into a bleak future with their irrational demands, inept logic and reasoning, and refusal to acknowledge facts, only wishing to steer by emotion. 

      I’m not saying many do not have great ideas, even Bernie. However, their bullying tactics to demand everything, and demand it “NOW,” is not how you govern 320 million individuals. All while refusing to collaborate or compromise. They have no desire to work with us, or our elected officials, they want to completely take over the Democratic Party. That cannot happen. They do not get to demand a seat at the table by forcing everyone, anyone, they wish to falsely label as “establishment” to vacate their seat. Either have a seat with us, or elsewhere.

      Hillary Clinton is not the establishment. She has dedicated her life to public service, has more accomplishments, incomparable to most, and is one of our greatest politicians of all time. She has a proven record based on fact and action, not rhetoric. She ran a 38 plus point platform that was inclusive to every single American citizen on the left, and to those on the right. Thirty-eight policy proposals spelled out in over 125,000 words, compared to Trump’s seven policies and just over 9,000 words; of which most were repetitive soundbites and catch phrases. We know them well, “build the wall” and “make America great again”. We all knew, and know where that is heading. Bernie on the other hand, not Clinton, was the flawed candidate. Opportunistic in every sense and incompetent to the point of embarrassment for someone with a career of 35 years in an elected public office. 

      For those who call themselves “progressives and liberals” that wish to work with us, instead of attacking us, we should welcome them. For those who only wish to be divisive and destructive, we cannot afford to even entertain their irrational demands. The next four years will be a dark stain on our country’s history. If we do not demand the truth, the facts, and allow ourselves to succumb to extremism breeding on the left; we will continue to fail. We will find ourselves in a nationalistic theocracy, ruled by fascism.  

      Those who refused to vote, voted third party, etc., are now watching all our progress being eroded in a single day. They are outraged over women’s rights; civil rights; LGBT rights; immigration; healthcare; responsible gun legislation; climate change; education/student debt; minimum wage; Flint, Michigan; Standing Rock; the Supreme Court; ethics; corruption; obstructionism; demagoguery; tyranny; etc. However, if they all would have meant their feel-good slogan of “#USNotMe, we would not be in this position. 

      *Make no mistake, there is and will be from here on out, right-wing propagandists, even foreign influence trying to dictate the divide in hopes of growing nationalism and fascism. By an onslaught of trolls, fake news, and every means possible. Just as Russia has done in England [Brexit], recently here in the US [our election], now Germany [with their upcoming election], and all across the globe. This is not just the work of far-left fanatics, they are also being influenced unwillingly, unknowingly, and some even refusing to admit, by outside opposition. 

      We have two years; not even. We must unite together for the greater good of our nation, and root ourselves back in reality. Not for the greater good of singular individuals, or groups, or issues. For all of us. It truly should be about “us, not me,” but we have to mean it and live by it. That will progress us towards Equality. Some will feel left out on the journey from time to time, as not everything will be resolved instantaneously. However, we will keep advocating these issues until they are resolved. Not overnight, not under one President, but together we can get there. Yes we can! Yes we will! #DemandTheTruth #FactsOnly #StrongerTogether

      Anyone wishing to “advise” or even suggest that we need to stop criticizing U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders, can save their time and energy. 

      Hillary Clinton is now a private citizen, until she decides otherwise, which is her right and only her right. Bernie is still a seated Senator. He has the ability to draft legislation to actually make a difference. (If he wasn’t so concerned with selling books. Ironically, after he attacked Hillary for making her money off books and speeches.) Bernie is a public figure, an elected representative; it is our duty to hold him every bit accountable and to the same standards as any other elected official. 

      Sanders will continue to be the topic of conversations and criticism as long as he is an elected representative. So you can save the “primaries/election is over” tripe. If Bernie is speaking, in office “representing” us, he is current and relevant

      “Those furious speeches aren’t outrage, they’re entitlement.”
      http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266985/bernie-sanders-greedy-lying-socialist-1-percenter-daniel-greenfield#.WUfaBVu5N9I.facebook

      Intellectual & Liberal Speaks Out: Bernie Sanders is a Fraud
      https://medium.com/@SNovi/intellectual-liberal-speaks-out-bernie-sanders-is-a-fraud-1486ef2743ff

      You want blunt honesty? Here it is.

      ‘Let’s get something straight: Democrats are not “divided.” We don’t have an “identity crisis.” What we have is an extremist fringe faction, just like the GOP has. Their biggest mistake was giving their lunatic fringe a seat at their table. Now they’ve taken over the asylum. At least we could pass our own health care bill. We don’t need to welcome or embrace or fellate our own version of the Freedom Caucus. We need to kick them to the fucking curb.’

      The Democratic Party needs a wake up call. Stop pandering to extremists and extremism on the left.
      https://thepolicy.us/fuck-bernie-fucking-sanders-fe49195c97cd

      BERNIE CLAIMS HE IS PURE AND CLEAN FROM THE ESTABLISHMENT, LOBBYISTS, AND ALL THE DONATIONS HE ATTACKED HILLARY FOR> #FeelTheFraud

      Bernie’s Hypocrisy on Corporate Donors, Military Complex, Dirty Coal, & Super PAC’s: YES – He’s Bought.

      The NRA
      Federal Coal Co.
      Boeing Co.
      US Navy
      Google Inc.
      Microsoft Corp.
      Apple Inc.
      Amazon. com
      Kaiser Permanente
      IBM Corp.
      Merrill Lynch
      Sugar Cane Ind.

      To name a few…

      https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=All&id=N00000528&type

      “For all his proclaimed independence, Sanders cannot stop himself from gorging on the sweet deal the sugar industry offers. In the past two election cycles, ACS donated $20,000 to his campaigns. This ranks ACS among Sanders’s top 20 donors…”

      http://www.forbes.com/sites/jaredmeyer/2015/08/25/sanders-rubio-support-costly-sugar-subsidies/

      Bernie is being funded over $570,000 to date… 11/18/2015

      http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/18/politics/bernie-sanders-super-pac-nurses-union/index.html

      Nurses Union SuperPAC Information.

      http://realtime.influenceexplorer.com/committee/2016/national-nurses-united-for-patient-protection/C00490375/

      “DES MOINES — As he swung through Iowa this week, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont rarely passed up a chance to bash the rising tide of money in politics…

      But the union is not just busing nurses into Iowa. The union’s “super PAC” has spent close to $1 million on ads and other support for Mr. Sanders, the Democratic presidential candidate who has inspired liberal voters with his calls to eradicate such outside groups. In fact, more super PAC money has been spent so far in express support of Mr. Sanders than for either of his Democratic rivals, including Hillary Clinton, according to Federal Election Commission records.”

      http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/01/29/us/politics/bernie-sanders-is-democrats-top-beneficiary-of-outside-spending-like-it-or-not.html?_r=0&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2F

      Sanders’ ‘No Super PAC’ Myth

      https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factsheets/2016/01/17/sanders-no-super-pac-myth/

      It’s not the #fact #Bernie receives and accepts these contributions, that we can’t trust him. It’s the fact he #lies about receiving and accepting these contributions.

      BREAKING: Bernie Sanders #Received #Millions in #Defense, #Energy, #Health, #Financial, #Business Industry-Related Contributions
      http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-received-millions-from-defense-energy-health-and-financial/

      Internal link to Opensecrets.org in article, with a drop-down box for each sector.

      His contributions may be less, however, isn’t the number Bernie falsely “claims”- zero?

      History has always shown, those who point fingers and cry wolf are usually those most guilty. In this case, it is his “Integrity”. Or lack of. #FeelTheManipulation

      #FeelTheHypocrisy #FeelTheFraud

      #WhichBernie!? #WhosHonestNow!? Far from #Transparent or #Sincere. Though, what should one expect from a 35 year long #Establishment #Politician!?

      Defense Sector Totals to Candidates
      https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=D

      Health Sector Totals to Candidates
      https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=H

      Lawyers & Lobbyists Sector Totals to Candidates
      https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=K

      Finance/Insurance/Real Estate Sector Totals to Candidates
      https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=F

      Communications/Electronics Sector Totals to Candidates
      https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=B

      Misc Business Sector Totals to Candidates
      https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=N

      “Diamondback Energy, Inc. is an independent oil and natural gas company headquartered in Midland, Texas. Diamondback’s growth strategy is focused on the acquisition, development, exploration and exploitation of unconventional, long-life, onshore oil and natural gas reserves in the major oil producing Permian Basin in West Texas.”

      Diamondback Energy drills and uses hydraulic fracturing, aka fracking, in the Permian Basin. It’s one thing to receive money from those in the oil industry. After all, we previously described how it is employees of the oil industry, not corporations, that donate to candidates. In fact, Bernie Sanders received about $54,000 from those in the industry himself.”

      If Bernie Sanders Doesn’t Support Fracking, He Should Check His Investments.
      http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/3/1509959/-If-Bernie-Sanders-Doesn-t-Support-Fracking-He-Should-Check-His-Investments

      #FeelTheFraud

      “If U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders Cares About Cheaper Drugs, He Should Stop Smearing His Colleagues For Rejecting His Flawed Amendment

      Last year, during his campaign for President, Bernie Sanders received $309,575 from the pharmaceutical industry. Of the 100 members of the Senate, he ranked third in donations from the industry.”

      #FeelTheFraud
      https://cenlamar.com/2017/01/14/if-bernie-sanders-cares-about-cheaper-drugs-he-should-stop-smearing-his-colleagues-for-rejecting-his-flawed-amendment/

      #MYTHBUSTER: Former NYT Editor Says Hillary Clinton Is Fundamentally #Honest and #Trustworthy

      Hillary Clinton Is One of the #MostEthical (and #MostLiedAbout) Political Leaders in America

      FACT: By This Measure, Hillary Clinton Is the #MostTruthful Candidate in the 2016 Race

      Now here’s a #GallupPoll that will have heads spinning:

      On the Democratic side, #HillaryClinton’s #Supporters are #MoreEnthusiastic than Sen. Bernie Sanders’ supporters, 54% vs. 44%. … Contrary to what the optics of the campaign might project, it is Clinton’s supporters right now who are more enthusiastic.”

      #HillYes #GiveEmHill 
      http://bluenationreview.com/hillary-supporters-have-the-most-enthusiasm/

      NowThisElection shared a video of #Republicans praising #BernieSanders for his “honesty”.
      https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1135361666495322&id=908009612563863

      That’s suspicious… until you research his hypocritical and contradictory record:

      -Voting for the same crime bill he attacks Hillary on, who did not have a vote.
      -The fact he voted against immigration reform.
      -Voted against same-sex marriage equality until fully supporting in 2009. As Mayor of Burlington, he signed off on an evangelical-led ‘We Believe in Marriage Week’ in 1982 – defining marriage as between a husband and wife.
      -Voted for the Commodity Futures Modernization Act.
      -Voted against auditing the Federal Reserve Bank.
      -Voted against Amber Alerts.
      -Voted against the Brady Bill five times.
      -Voted against CDC research on gun violence.
      -Voted against background checks and mandatory waiting periods.
      -The fact that the NRA helped finance Bernie’s re-election campaign in Vermont.
      -Voted to dump nuclear waste in Sierra Blanca, Texas and Barnwell, South Carolina.
      -Jane Sanders sits on and profits from the Compact Commission that oversees the transfer of nuclear waste from Vermont to other states.
      -Voted for countless acts of war, including the bills that set up and financed the Iraq war (HR 1585) and continued financing (HR 4613, HR 563, HR 2863). Later approved increased troop deployments (HR 2647) that Hillary voted against. Approved of the summer long assault against Gaza (S 498). Voted for regime change in Libya (S Res. 85) . Bosnia troop deployment resolution (H Res 247). Voted for Iraqi Liberation Act (Saddam Hussein regime change) in 1998 (Hr 4655 and H J Res 114). Approves of air strikes against ISIS, etc. etc. etc.
      -Voted against the closure of Guantanamo Bay.
      -Voted YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight (HR 5020).
      -Has 6 SuperPACs backing his campaign (that we know of), of which 3 are GOP SuperPACs.
      -Implies Hillary has control over the SuperPACs backing her campaign, which is factually false and illegal for a campaign to coordinate with a SuperPAC. Same with those supporting Bernie’s campaign. A candidate has no control over SuperPACs, they are free to endorse and support any candidate they choose, even multiple.
      -The fact he does take corporate contributions and he has received millions from all the entities/and employees he attacks Hillary for.
      -Has been cited for campaign contribution violations three times by the FEC.
      -Claims endorsements that actually endorsed Hillary.
      -Bernie’s campaign has stolen campaign data from Hillary.
      -Filed a frivolous lawsuit against the DNC over the theft of data his campaign stole, which he admitted to and fired his campaign staffers involved; illegally broke the DNC rules and campaign laws.
      -Bernie’s campaign staff illegally posed as union workers in Nevada.
      -Inflates caucuses.
      -Wrote a rape fantasy essay.
      -Claims Donald Trump’s remarks on abortion and punishing women is a distraction from “real issues”.
      -Bernie claims to have a more progressive record advocating LGBT and Womens Rights, actual record and accomplishments prove otherwise, Hillary Clinton is more accomplished on both accounts.
      -Claims the Human Right’s Campaign and Planned Parenthood, even civil rights hero’s like Congressman John Lewis are the “establishment”.
      -Claims to poll better against GOP candidates than Hillary, Politifact.com rates claim as False.
      -Claims he is the “People’s Choice” while Hillary is ahead in the popular vote by 3 MILLION votes. [Almost 4 MILLION final.]
      -Rails against Superdelegates as “establishment corruption,” in which his top advisor Tad Devine was the architect of the very Superdelegate system in the early 1980’s, then claims he will win by “persuading”/stealing said Superdelegates from Hillary.
      -Tad Devine also represented Monsanto, Phillip Morris, Pfizer, Verizon, Microsoft, as their attorney.
      -Pays his wife Jane Sanders YUGE for her work/role in campaign, while refusing to release tax returns as everything is in Jane’s name, not his.
      -Claims Hillary is dishonest, yet cannot provide a single example; Politifact.com has rated Hillary Clinton most honest candidate among all presidential hopefuls in 2016, including Bernie Sanders.
      -Claims Hillary is an establishment politician, while he has been in elected office for a total of 35 years, Hillary only 12.
      -Claims to be a candidate running on progressive, revolutionary change, however, throughout Bernie’s 35 long years in office there is no instance of revolutionary change. (And somehow he believes 35 years was not enough time to accomplish any of his current grandiose proposals, and believes he will be able to implement all of them in a short span of 4-8 years.)
      -Continuously references Denmark as an exemplary model for his proposals, yet Danes and the Danish Prime Minister reject his comparisons.
      -Grotesquely understates the cost of his proposals, as shown by all economists not directly involved in or sought out by the Sanders campaign.
      -Claims to be running a positive campaign, though is not.
      -Has a campaign that is fueled by hypocrisy and manipulation.
      -Uses regurgitated Republican propaganda, misinformation, and blatant lies as a campaign tactic against Hillary Clinton.

      Yes, Bernie is real “honest, transparent, and sincere!”

      Not to mention, when you have a horde of dishonest Republicans endorsing you, praising your “honesty,” it seems very disingenuous. Every “liberal and progressive” commenting in the comment section of the above video, cheering their praise, has attacked each and every one of these Republicans as obstructionists, extremists, and terrorists. Though, of course, since it is praise towards Bernie Sanders they think these endorsements are “honorable.” Imagine for a moment what these same “liberals and progressives” would be saying and claiming if all these same Republicans praised- #HillaryClinton.

      Revolution? I want no part of this “revolution”.

      Not So Progressive Votes Of Sen. Bernie Sanders >

      He OPPOSED legislation that would’ve MAINTAINED OR CREATED OVER 300,000 SMALL BUSINESS JOBS through loans: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1993/roll188.xml
      OPPOSED efforts to increase funding for advanced technology projects:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll484.xml
      OPPOSED Democratic attempts to prevent GOP cuts and increase funding for benefits aimed at LEGAL immigrants, Medicaid, the disabled, and children safety nets: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll168.xml
      OPPOSED federal funding to help the homeless:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      OPPOSED increased funding for nutritional programs for women, infants, and children:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1995/roll708.xml
      OPPOSED increases funding for rural development programs: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll234.xml
      OPPOSED additional funding for rural housing and development:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      OPPOSED funding for assisting prospective homeowners with AIDS: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      OPPOSED allowing breastfeeding on federal grounds:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1999/roll426.xml
      OPPOSED legislation requiring federal agencies to create and enforce anti-sex discrimination policies:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      OPPOSED legislation banning imports from forced child labor: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1997/roll474.xml
      OPPOSED funding going towards investigations of unfair trade practices:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      OPPOSED legislation encouraging Pentagon to avoid using foreign imports over domestic ones:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll617.xml
      PROPOSED withdrawing from WTO:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll239.xml
      OPPOSED pay raises for various federal employees MULTIPLE times… http://clerk.house.gov/…/clerk…/evs/2003/roll335.xml
      … while VOTING FOR HIS OWN PAY RAISE:http://www.senate.gov/…/roll…/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm…
      OPPOSED increased education funding:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      OPPOSED increases funding for poor students:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      OPPOSED legislation increasing financial aid:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      TWICE OPPOSED increased science funding for historically black colleges: http://clerk.house.gov/…/clerk…/evs/2003/roll513.xml
      OPPOSED a bill providing massive support to the agricultural communities:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2001/roll371.xml
      SUPPORTED cutting agricultural funding by ten percent:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1992/roll248.xml
      OPPOSED increases agricultural funding:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      OPPOSED increased funding for prominent farming communities:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      OPPOSED funding for drought assistance:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      OPPOSED funding for building and repairing farms:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll358.xml
      SUPPORTED gutting oversight for agricultural marketing practices: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1995/roll550.xml
      OPPOSED legislation marketing oversea agriculture practices: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1995/roll708.xml
      OPPOSED increased food safety and inspection:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2003/roll032.xml
      http://footprintsstrategies.com
      http://newsin15.blogspot.com/…/not-so-progressive-votes…

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  3. Not in this Lifetime on

    Breaking News? As a soldier and a Bernie supporter who happens to be over 40 years old I am patiently waiting for one of you Hillary apologist to spew your “Bernie Bro crap at me in person.
    It wont happen because you are all at heart cowards.

      • Not in this Lifetime on

        Strike a nerve Greg? that’s some crude language for a 55 year old. At 55 I’m pretty sure any corrective action I applied would not take. I voted for Hillary though I am certainly not a supporter.I take exception with the weak spineless Marsh mellows that spew disparagingly about how they know exactly what every Bernie Supporter looks and acts like.
        It is very annoying. Unfortunately I am not much for the whole keyboard warrior thing.
        You can find me on Beech Mtn. N.C 28604 Just stop in the general store and tell them your looking for The Irish Soldier. it’s a small community they all know me. You can even ask them what they think of your chances if you start something with me.
        But don’t wait to long say more than 6 months or so because I’m headed out on deployment no thanks in any small part to you and Hillary/Trump

  4. You Identity liberals and the white nationalists are two sides of the same coin, and frankly, deserve each other. (How is this public attack on a reader different than a typicalTrump tweet for example?) *You* did this to the country. If you dont like it, you should have held a Democratic Primary (get it?) Subtle or overt, fascism is fascism. You tried to hold democracy hostage, and the people refused to march to your drum. Ot was our civic duty, as lovers of democracy. We will refuse again in 2020 if you refuse to learn from this.

    • This article is at best an opinion piece or editorial. That is not news, its opinion. Secondly a follow up to a story you wrote about an event that happened a year ago is definitely not breaking.

      That is just bad editing

      Your childish response to a perfectly practical comment shows your journalistic ignorance. And again your lack of a good editor. If you want to be a professional news source, act like it.

  5. also backbiting is not an effective form of either leadership, or effective teamwork.

    Also this was loaded on your page as “Breaking News” and as a news professional I would say not only is it not breaking news for a miriad of reasons, any news editor that believed it was should be replaced

  6. The sanders defender seemed much more thoughtful than you do. I question why you would release an article that made you look so ignorant and arrogant.

    • The Sanders defender was adequately described by the author in the first go-round: “the loathsome contingent of humanity that suffers from the delusion that they’re more intellectually inclined than they really are” and then comes back to ASSUME that the writer and the many millions who do not support Sanders haven’t heard/studied/already know all the shit he’s spewing up one side and down the other. Just like libertarians think they’re the brightest light in the room, refusing to acknowledge that others have already studied and discarded their ‘beliefs’ in favor of reality. The left didn’t need a tea party, and we don’t accept you as democrats when you suddenly think you can do better because a lazy old white man told you so. Get a clue and join the world of reality. Or become like Paulbots/Naderites/Steinsheep and Perot nuts, swept to the curb by the dustbin of history. I won’t be back. My quota of suffering fools gladly has been filled for the day!

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